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tsidska

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How do you say...
« on: August 21, 2008, 09:39:07 PM »
American Indian in Russian? I tried on Babelfish, but I think the translation of it was literal and probably didn't imply any kind of colloquial expression for said ethnic group in Russian. If you can help me, it'd be great. :)

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Re: How do you say...
« Reply #1 on: August 21, 2008, 10:43:40 PM »
You can say: 1) Korennoi zhitel' Ameriki or 2) Indyeets.

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« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2008, 01:56:35 PM »
Just to clarify:

1. Korennoi zhitel' Ameriki = Native American
2. Indyeets = Indian

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« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2008, 02:00:28 PM »
Yes, that's exactly right.
But how would you translate American Indian?

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« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2008, 09:31:09 AM »
I don't think the Russian language makes the Politically Correct provisions that the U.S. language does. The term [some nationality] American is usually shortened to just [some nationality]. For example, someone from the country of India would be Индиец. I suppose you could say Индиец-Американец or Американец-Индиец, but I am not sure if it would make sense without qualifying that this person is of Indian decent and now lives in America.

The same goes for Native American. The term Индеец (note the different spelling), applies and is not meant to be derogatory. I suppose you could say коренной житель Америки but I am not convinced that to a Russian speaker that would make more sense then Индеец.

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« Reply #5 on: August 30, 2008, 09:22:50 AM »
I don't think the Russian language makes the Politically Correct provisions that the U.S. language does. The term [some nationality] American is usually shortened to just [some nationality]. For example, someone from the country of India would be Индиец. I suppose you could say Индиец-Американец or Американец-Индиец, but I am not sure if it would make sense without qualifying that this person is of Indian decent and now lives in America.

The same goes for Native American. The term Индеец (note the different spelling), applies and is not meant to be derogatory. I suppose you could say коренной житель Америки but I am not convinced that to a Russian speaker that would make more sense then Индеец.
Не мучайся, American Indian на русском будет "американский индеец".
Индиец-Американец has no sense, it should sound similar to the above, and is written in lower case, too.
Коренной житель Америки - we already got used to these Politically Correct terms, though we still laugh at them. Коренной житель Америки could only be used in common speech with irony. Similar situation is with Afro-American, people in Russia are used to call black people "негры"(negro). Although it sounds offensive in English, and amuses foreigners, it still sounds quite all right for Russians, we were taught to call them like this from childhood, and it is NEVER used to offense black people.
« Last Edit: August 31, 2008, 01:38:37 AM by Freeloader »

 

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